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  What Does The Organization Really Teach?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  Im hearing some say that the Org is about to reverse the No Blood policy - about to change...

  by BeaverEater in

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  uh, i wonder if that is true... hearing this from friends within bethel... gonna laugh my ass of if they change this....

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  The blood of these children is 'crying out to me from the ground.'

  Not only the children but suicides from shunning as well.
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  How Does WT Explain away, "Absent from the Body, Present with the Lord"?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  5now he that wrought us for this very thing is god, who gave unto us the earnest of the spirit.6being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the lord 7(for we walk by faith, not by sight); 8we are of good courage, i say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the lord.

  9wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.. since watchtower teaches there is only one "you" and not three (soul, body & spirit); how do jw's deal with the fact that scripture says that it is possible for a person to be absent from their body and to be present with the lord in heaven?when i was pioneering, i don't recall a householder every dropping this verse on me; and i'm not sure how i would have handled it if they did.

  what say you?.

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  How does this soul, without a body, interact in heaven (in any religious teaching)?

  Apparently, fairly well. But, the souls want their bodies back so they can be whole again.... as originally designed, but with a major systems upgrade. But, still a physical body.

  Phil. 3: 21 - Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body - KJV
  
  
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  How Does WT Explain away, "Absent from the Body, Present with the Lord"?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  5now he that wrought us for this very thing is god, who gave unto us the earnest of the spirit.6being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the lord 7(for we walk by faith, not by sight); 8we are of good courage, i say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the lord.

  9wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.. since watchtower teaches there is only one "you" and not three (soul, body & spirit); how do jw's deal with the fact that scripture says that it is possible for a person to be absent from their body and to be present with the lord in heaven?when i was pioneering, i don't recall a householder every dropping this verse on me; and i'm not sure how i would have handled it if they did.

  what say you?.

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  Their NWT is pretty clear that this only applies to spirit anointed Christians and not to ‘all’ Christians.

  I agree but that is stating the obvious. The NT was written to various congregations of believers, all of which were annointed until Russell invented the two-class salvation doctrine - one salvation with the new covenant and another one without it.
  
  So, there is no problem with whom it applies. The question is what does the WT think is absent from the body if not a person?

  [V.8] We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. - KJV

  
  
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  How Does WT Explain away, "Absent from the Body, Present with the Lord"?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  5now he that wrought us for this very thing is god, who gave unto us the earnest of the spirit.6being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the lord 7(for we walk by faith, not by sight); 8we are of good courage, i say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the lord.

  9wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.. since watchtower teaches there is only one "you" and not three (soul, body & spirit); how do jw's deal with the fact that scripture says that it is possible for a person to be absent from their body and to be present with the lord in heaven?when i was pioneering, i don't recall a householder every dropping this verse on me; and i'm not sure how i would have handled it if they did.

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  @watcher

  The chapter starts off talking about our bodies as a temporary tent.

  2 Cor. 5: 1 - For we know that if the earthly house of our tabernacle be dissolved, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal, in the heavens.

  Paul describes our bodies in this fallen world as a temporary dwelling place, like a tent (tabernacle) that our consciousness resides in. It is not built to last forever. It provides minimal shelter from the elements for a short time, like a tent. Waiting in eternity, for all who are in Christ, is a dwelling place that will last forever..

  "I say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the Lord"

  So once our consciousness leaves our body (our current home or tabernacle), we automatically have a home in heaven. It is the person that is translated at death.
  
  I don't see how the WT can get arond this scripture in claiming that we are a body only with no other identity like a spirt or soul that continues on somewhere after the demise of the body.
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  2024-04-April-Languages-Announcements And Reminders-S-147!

  by Atlantis in

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  Sea Breeze

  Recent reports indicate that in some lands the number of Bible studies is decreasing.

  Translation: In nations that are connected to the internet, reports indicate that people aren't as gullible as they used to be.
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  How Does WT Explain away, "Absent from the Body, Present with the Lord"?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  5now he that wrought us for this very thing is god, who gave unto us the earnest of the spirit.6being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the lord 7(for we walk by faith, not by sight); 8we are of good courage, i say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the lord.

  9wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.. since watchtower teaches there is only one "you" and not three (soul, body & spirit); how do jw's deal with the fact that scripture says that it is possible for a person to be absent from their body and to be present with the lord in heaven?when i was pioneering, i don't recall a householder every dropping this verse on me; and i'm not sure how i would have handled it if they did.

  what say you?.

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  5Now he that wrought us for this very thing is God, who gave unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
  6Being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord 7(for we walk by faith, not by sight); 8we are of good courage, I say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the Lord. 9Wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.

  Since Watchtower teaches there is only one "You" and not three (soul, body & spirit); how do JW's deal with the fact that scripture says that it is possible for a person to be absent from their body and to be present with the Lord in heaven?
  
  When I was pioneering, I don't recall a householder every dropping this verse on me; and I'm not sure how I would have handled it if they did.
  
  What say you?
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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  Sea Breeze

  We stayed right on Prague Square for 3 nights on one vacation. We were in a 3 bedroom loft in one of the buildings facing the church castle which is 1300 years old I believe. Prague is the most beautiful city I have ever visited. Highly recomend.

  Prague was never bombed during WWII, so much of the original city remains, including the original city gates and walls. It was like going back in time in a time machine in some respects.
  
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  Prediction: no more changes for a long while

  by slimboyfat in

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  i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.

  so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.

  maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.

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  Sea Breeze

  The message is : we will throw you a bone now and then as long as you don't try to explore Christianity outside of the Kingdom Hall.
  
  Families are still weaponized against accepting the new covenant "for the forgiveness of sins" (Mt. 26: 27-28)

  Damn those apostates!
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  Happy Easter Everyone !

  by Sea Breeze in

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  and as a reminder to all my atheist friends, here's a list of 12 facts on the resurrection most scholars (skeptic, jewish and otherwise) agree to.

  2000 years ago a man announced that he would be killed and while he was dead, he would resurrect himself from the dead.

  just wow!.

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  Sea Breeze

  And as a reminder to all my atheist friends, here's a list of 12 facts on the Resurrection most scholars (skeptic, Jewish and otherwise) agree to.
  
  2000 years ago a man announced that he would be killed and while he was dead, he would resurrect himself from the dead. Then, he did it. Just WOW!

  Thank you Jesus for providing another option besides death for my destiny.